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Retirement Wisdom · Oct 22, 2019 ·

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We are joined today by Chris Farrell to discuss his new book Purpose and a Paycheck. Podcasts about retirement and books on retirement primarily focus on financial planning. Chris’ new book is different. He shares his observations on why more people are making a career change toward work with greater purpose and meaning. Chris explains why he thinks “There has never been a better time to be in the second half of life in America” and offers his insights on why the choice of working in retirement can be beneficial. We also discuss why he thinks entrepreneurship and self-employment are attractive options for a midlife career change and the multigenerational dimensions of retirement today. You’ll also hear the ageist phrases that he thinks should be retired, and his advice for planning your next chapter with purpose top of mind. If you’re thinking about a career change at 50 or older, you’ll benefit from listening to this conversation. It just might just give you inspiring ideas for a second career after retirement with a greater purpose.

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On Innovative Ways of Working Longer

“…At our core we all want to be useful, we all want to be helpful. And one way that we’re useful and helpful is to tap into our knowledge and our experience. So, there’s a lot of experimentation that’s going on right now. Flexible work, part-time work, starting your own business, self-employment, phased retirement, encore careers. And we don’t really know how this is going to shake out.”

On Emerging Multigenerational Trends

“A lot of people don’t like age segregation anymore. …it’s the Boomer parents going into business with their Millennial or Gen-X or children. Or it’s a boomer going into business with a Millennial or a Gen-Xer. Typically, what the Boomer’s providing is some capital, knowledge, experience, and contacts. And what the younger person is providing is that ambition, that hustle, a little tech-savvy – and their burden of student loans. So, they don’t have that much capital. And so, that’s a real win-win situation for both generations. And that’s a really heartening trend.”

“The other place where you’re seeing it is in housing. There’s a great deal of interest in intergenerational housing. (There’s) not a whole lot of choice out there yet. We can come up, there are lots of, intriguing examples of music conservatories that are nearby a continuing care community and the students are invited to live there for free, or a nominal price, and just to be part of the community to be engaged with the community. And you are seeing a sort of deliberate building of multigenerational communities.”

Bio

Chris Farrell is considered a leading expert on the trend toward working longer in the second half of life. He writes a biweekly column for Next Avenue, an online PBS magazine for the 50-plus demographic, and hosts a Minnesota Public Radio Program, Conversations on the Creative Economy, which is now entering its sixth season. He speaks across the country on the topic of unretirement. Chris earned his BA from Stanford and his Master’s from the London School of Economics.

Books by Chris Farrell Referenced in this Retirement Podcast episode:

Purpose and a Paycheck: Finding Meaning, Money & Happiness in the Second Half of Life

Unretirement: How Baby Boomers are Changing the Way We Think About Work, Community, and the Good Life

Follow Chris Farrell:

Conversations on the Creative Economy – MPR News
Next Avenue
Twitter

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Retirement Wisdom · Oct 13, 2019 ·

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In this edition of our retirement podcast our guest is Ted Carr, a thoughtful and interesting blogger and podcaster on early retirement who we enjoy following. People often think of retirement as a single phase of life, but Ted describes how there are 6 distinct phases of retirement. He shares his personal experiences with the different phases after he retired early from a career in Silicon Valley. You’ll come away with an appreciation of why your retirement strategies should take the different phases of retirement into account if you want to retire smarter.

One of the big questions people face in retirement is where should I retire to? And that decision is often not a ‘one and done’ type of call as needs, and priorities change over the life course. Ted discusses the decision that he and his wife recently made to move to a retirement community and the key factors that led to their decision. Our conversation shifts to the importance of community in retirement and the risks of isolation.

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On Retirement as a Stressful Life Event

“So, I think back to the time before I retired – the pre-retirement stage. What I found is that it’s really, really essential that you have a detailed retirement plan and that it includes not only a financial plan, but also the non-financial side of retirement. And as we’ve alluded to already, the adjustment to retirement can be difficult. Now there’s something that I’ve come across, I’m sure you’ve heard of it too. It’s called the Holmes and Rahe Stress Scale. And on that stress scale, retirement comes in as the 10th most stressful event on that scale. Now, if that wasn’t stressful enough, the other stressors that are on the top 10, shall we say, can occur at the same time as retirement – which only exacerbates the challenges around adjusting to retirement – and some of those things where you have divorce, separation, illness, loss of jobs.”

On Planning to Move in Retirement

“So, us being inveterate planners said, well, you know, we need to be intentional about our future old age. And so, we looked at some of these options and after looking at the CCRC model, we decided that that probably wasn’t for us…And we’re not near that age and the entering cost of buying into a CCRC is very expensive. And so, we just said there are other options that are coming down the road. Maybe we should take a timeout from thinking that way and look at something different. So my wife, who’s extremely social, came up with the idea to look into a 55 plus community because her feeling, and I concur, is that where we live today, there’s really not a sense of belonging. Like I say, she just doesn’t feel that she’s made enough friends over the course of nine years and she doesn’t want to see the next nine to 10 years be equally as frustrating. So, we started looking at 55 plus communities.”

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Resources Mentioned on this Retirement Podcast Episode

The Holmes & Rahe Stress Inventory

What’s Your Retirement Personality Type? by Dave Hughes

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Retirement Wisdom · Oct 5, 2019 ·

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How Can You Stay Sharp?

We all want to stay sharp. Cognitive functioning is a key part of healthy aging. But is working longer helpful or harmful to your brain health? Well, it depends. In this episode of our retirement podcast, Dawn Carr of Florida State University discusses her insights from new research on the impact of working into retirement with different types of jobs on healthy aging. She also talks about what may happen when people unretire and return to work. Dawn also shares her advice on aging well and how to stay sharp based on research. Listen in and expand yiur knowledge of healthy aging.

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Bio

Dawn C. Carr is an associate professor at Florida State University in the Department of Sociology and faculty associate at Pepper Institute for Aging and Public Policy. Carr’s expertise lies in understanding the factors that bolster older adults’ ability to remain healthy and active as long as possible. With Kathrin Komp, Carr published “Gerontology in the Era of the Third Age: Implications and Next Steps” in 2011, a text dedicated to exploring the relevance, purpose, and factors that contributed to the emergence of a new period of life following one’s career but prior to onset of frailty in later life.

Her recent work focuses on understanding the complex pathways between health and active engagement during later life, including the impact of key transitions in health, productivity, and caregiving. Before joining Florida State University in 2016, she was a researcher at the Stanford Center on Longevity, a postdoctoral fellow in the Carolina Program for Health and Aging Research at the Institute on Aging at The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, and a researcher at Scripps Gerontology Center.

Carr received her Ph.D. in Social Gerontology and Master’s in Gerontological Studies at Miami University, and Bachelor of Arts in Music Performance at Arizona State University.

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For More on Dawn Carr, PhD:

Dawn Carr’s Website

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On Staying Sharp

“What we know is that there are three really important ingredients for maintaining cognitive function, not just in later life but across our lives. And one is staying physically active.… The blood flow in our brains is affected by physical activity and we know that this has a beneficial effect on cognitive function. And the more regularly we stay engaged in physical activity and avoid sedentary behavior, this seems to be very beneficial.

So, you don’t think about staying mentally sharp by exercising, but there’s a certain amount of evidence that suggests that just continuing to stay physically active matters. The second…surprising thing that we know in research about maintaining cognitive function is the importance of social interactions.

People who have very active social lives are able to keep their cognitive function longer. So, they’re able to not only arrive in later life with higher levels of cognitive function, but they also seem to maintain it longer if they continue to stay socially active.”

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Articles Referenced

Brains age better among retirees with complex jobs – Florida State University

Carr, D. C., Willis, R., Kail, B. L., & Carstensen, L. L. (2019). Alternative Retirement Paths and Cognitive Performance: Exploring the Role of Preretirement Job Complexity. The Gerontologist.

Sims, T., Reed, A. E., & Carr, D. C. (2017). Information and communication technology use is related to higher well-being among the oldest-old. The Journals of Gerontology: Series B, 72(5), 761-770.

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Retirement Wisdom · Aug 13, 2019 ·

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What Trends Should Baby Boomers Be Aware of?

Richard Eisenberg, the Managing Editor of PBS’ Nextavenue.org joins our retirement podcast to share his insights. Next Avenue is the PBS site for people 50+, where he is also the editor of the Money and Work & Purpose channels.

Previously, he was Executive Editor of Money magazine, Front Page Finance Editor of Yahoo! and Special Projects Director/Money Editor at Good Housekeeping. He is the author of two books: How to Avoid a Midlife Financial Crisis and The Money Book of Personal Finance.

We talk with Richard Eisenberg about Next Avenue, older workers, and employers, the key trends Baby Boomers should be aware of, and what he’s learned from his research on Blue Zones.

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Q. What’s the one thing that people who are planning for retirement may not be thinking about but really should be?

Richard Eisenberg: “If it’s okay, I think I’ll give you two. One of them is will I be able to keep working part-time if I want to. There’ve been some interesting studies that show a lot of people in their fifties and sixties expect to work part-time in retirement. And yet when you look at the surveys of retirees, you find that a very small percentage of them are working in retirement and many of them aren’t because of health reasons. So I think people just need to think, well, is it realistic that I’ll be able to work in retirement? Partly, you know what, I’d be healthy enough to do it, but also will I be able to find work? Will I be able to get hired or will I be able to start a business? So I think that’s one thing I would tell people to think about.

And the other is if you are in a long-term relationship and have a spouse or partner are the two of you on the same page about retirement? We’ve done a few articles on Next Avenue about couples and retirement and have seen some studies that show that frequently couples don’t talk with each other much about what they expect retirement to be like for them. How they plan to spend their time and their money. And then what happens is they get retired and then one of them is planning to travel a lot and the other is not planning to travel at all? And they don’t want to be living differently, but they hadn’t really thought it out because they never had to. So I’d suggest couples talk about this more.”

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Bio

Richard Eisenberg is Managing Editor of PBS’ Nextavenue.org, the PBS site for people 50+, where he is also the editor of the Money and Work & Purpose channels.

Previously, he was Executive Editor of Money magazine, Front Page Finance Editor of Yahoo! and Special Projects Director/Money Editor at Good Housekeeping.

He is author of two books: How to Avoid a Midlife Financial Crisis and The Money Book of Personal Finance.

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For More on Richard Eisenberg and Next Avenue

Read his Series on Blue Zones mentioned in this podcast

Follow Richard Eisenberg on Twitter

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Retirement Wisdom · Jul 26, 2019 ·

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What advice from well-meaning friends and colleagues will help you in transitioning to retirement? Well, this journalist shares the view that because every person’s retirement is different, it’s best to find your own path. As an author and journalist, Carol Hymowitz has a unique perspective on the world of work, longevity, and how some savvy employers are wising up and leveraging older workers. Recently a visiting scholar at Stanford’s Center on Longevity, Carol was formerly an Editor at Large at Bloomberg, and a Senior Editor and columnist at the Wall Street Journal, where she spent most of her journalism career.

Reflections on Transitioning to Retirement and Working Longer

When you begin to contemplate how to retire, there’s no shortage of advice from well-meaning colleagues and friends. But every retirement is different. It can quickly become clear that you need to discover your own path.

In this episode of our retirement podcast, we talk with Carol Hymowitz on her observations on older workers today – and what she’s learning since retiring in 2017 and continuing to work as a freelance journalist. She shares her insights on her journey, what’s surprised her so far and how a co-worker played a role in her decision-making.

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Wise Quote:

On the Value of Experimenting in Retirement:

“I think experimenting was crucial. There was no way not to do that unless I was going to get myself into one lane and rigidly stick to that. But by experimenting, it gave me a chance to try different things out and see how I felt about it and then make changes faster. I mean going from a full-time job in one organization where your days are very structured, you pretty much have an order to what you’re doing. You have instructions about what’s expected of you (and you go to) to not having that.

It’s a big transition and the best advice I got was don’t make too many final choices or set choices quickly. Take your time to play around because it’s the only way to find out how do I really want to spend your time? And if there’s one thing that most people who hit 60 and over feel, it’s that time is precious, it’s obvious, it’s maybe a little cliche, but you do feel it. How do I want to spend my time?”

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For more on Carol Hymowitz:

The article mentioned in this episode:

Looking for a Road Map for Retirement? Good Luck With That – The Wall Street Journal (subscription)

Additional articles on Older Workers by Carol Hymowitz:

How Health Care Employers Are Welcoming Older Workers: And Why Other Industries May Wind Up Following Their Lead – Next Avenue

Retiring (Again and Again) in America – Bloomberg BusinessWeek

Follow Carol Hymowitz on Twitter:

@carolhymowitz

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Bio:

Carol Hymowitz researches, writes and speaks about the challenges and opportunities of living longer, including lengthening careers and work transitions, retirement savings, health, and lifestyle and was recently a visiting scholar at Stanford’s Center on Longevity.

She formerly was an Editor at Large at Bloomberg, where she wrote and edited award-winning stories about the longevity economy, gender, and racial inequality and global business leaders. Previously she was a Senior Editor and In the Lead management columnist at the Wall Street Journal, where she spent most of her journalism career, and she also was Editorial Director of Forbes Media’s Forbes Woman website.

She is the co-author of A History of Women in America and a contributing author of Getting Older: How We’re Coping with the Gray Areas of Aging. Carol is a board director at the Women’s Refugee Commission.

She received a B.A. with honors in literature from Brandeis University and an M.S. from Columbia University’s Graduate School of Journalism.

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